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Oregon not only school paying recruiting services

Posted on: March 9, 2011 6:07 pm
 
Posted by Jerry Hinnen

Offseasons and Oregon just don't seem to go well together. Last year a spate of arrests and the dismissal of Jeremiah Masoli took some of the shine off of the Ducks' Rose Bowl berth, and now the news that the NCAA is looking into Oregon's $25,000 payment to the recruiting service of a man named Will Lyles no doubt has upped the nervousness level in Eugene.

But for clarity's sake regarding the Oregon case, it's worth noting that the (potential) issue isn't Chip Kelly's use of recruiting services; it's the surprisingly large sum paid to Lyles and Lyles' connection to Duckrunning backs LaMichael James and Lache Seatrunk that seems to be in question.

That point was driven home by stories on either side of the country this week, illustrating that plenty of major college football programs are also putting recruiting services to use. One of those is Georgia, who Seth Emerson of the Columbus Ledger-Enquirer reports spent just under $40,000 on such services in 2009 and 2010:
The biggest expenditures were to LRS Sports, Inc., a service based in Springfield Ill. LRS states on its web site that it “delivers detailed, up-to-date, state-by-state databases of available high school and junior college athletes in the Southeast" ...

- In August of 2010, Georgia gave $11,000 to Bluechip Athletic Solutions, an Atlanta-based company.

- And also in August of 2010, Georgia paid $4,500 to Elite Scouting Services, which is based in Hollywood, Fla. According to its web site, Elite Scouting Services provides a database of high school players, game film of players and access to scouts.

There’s nothing secret about the associations.

Bluechip touts its association with a couple dozen schools, including Georgia.
The second? Washington, who the Seattle Times reported distributed a little less than $40,000 itself this past year to nine different services. As with Georgia, those services are making no secret of their association with the Huskies. And neither school reportedly has drawn any interest from the Ncaa. (Not for that reason, anyway, where the Bulldogs are concerned .)

So maybe the Ducks are, in fact, in trouble. But if so, it'll be because they worked with the wrong service for the wrong reasons, not for simply employing a recruiting service to begin with.

Comments

Since: Oct 20, 2010
Posted on: March 11, 2011 2:54 pm
 

Oregon not only school paying recruiting services

If you have a winning program in college football today, something funny is going on somewhere. I am not saying that players are getting paper sacks full of money or that their parents get new houses or jobs.  What I am saying is that if the NCAA looks close enough at every program, they are going to find questionable practices by someone linked to the program.  If your school has zero NCAA violations related to the atheletic program (especially football) then you must be a Vanderbilt fan, congratulations. 




Since: Feb 22, 2008
Posted on: March 10, 2011 10:44 pm
 

Oregon not only school paying recruiting services

What a double standard, Tressel gets the "run him out of town" treatment because he new that players sold their personal stuff. But, Kelly can pay an outside recrutier who in turn pays the athletes but that ok? If its not Ohio St then it is ok!
I don't suppose you realize that people Oregon hired do not (in theory) pass the money on to the athletes.  I agree that Oregon and any school that hires these people need to stop, and it is not unlikely that these bottom feeders pay recruits, but that is not what is bring reported here.  Try reading the story next time.  When/if Oregon gets caught paying recruits, you will know. 



Since: Dec 29, 2006
Posted on: March 10, 2011 6:32 pm
 

Oregon not only school paying recruiting services

Athenry et al. I think you guys are missing the point. No one said anything about agents paying players. The question is whether Oregon and this agent had a wink wink understanding that given the amount paid the agent, he  was to stear the prospect to Oregon. Which is a lot more than provide data and how you view that player's ability. I think it very natural for a service to ask for film report live watching, talk with coach and player in the coaches presence. But to go to the players family and if the family did tell the coach to butt out, then Lyles is acting more like an agent than a scout. And it almost smells to the point that Oregon chose Lyles because they felt he could deliver the player, with emphasis on deliver in the first place. Maybe the family got a few bucks instead of the player. I am also curious if Lyles is a one-man operation.



Since: Mar 10, 2011
Posted on: March 10, 2011 10:27 am
 

Oregon not only school paying recruiting services

There is nothing wrong with a recruiting service providing information.  But when the recruiting service adviss the athlete during his recruitment, then the "service" is an agent, and that is wrong!  This seems to be the issue with Oregon.  Lyles advised players during the recruiting process.  Seastunk's parents even told the high school coach to stay out of it, that Lyles was helping them.  No one has said money was paid to the players, just that it seems Lyle was acting as more than a "recruiting service."



Since: Nov 18, 2009
Posted on: March 10, 2011 10:08 am
 

Oregon not only school paying recruiting services

You have no idea what your talking about. The players didn't receive any money from the recruiting service. The recruiting service was used only to collect information in possible recruits. Get your facts straight before you spew untruths.



Since: Mar 10, 2011
Posted on: March 10, 2011 9:52 am
 

Oregon not only school paying recruiting services

Such a stupid comment.  No one has even accused Oregon of having Lyles pay those players.  But I guess it is okay for idiots on forums to use "speculation"



Since: Sep 12, 2008
Posted on: March 10, 2011 9:15 am
 

The NCAA should put Ohio State on probation

Ohio State deserves the same probation as Southern California.



Since: Oct 10, 2010
Posted on: March 10, 2011 8:26 am
 

Oregon not only school paying recruiting services

What a double standard, Tressel gets the "run him out of town" treatment because he new that players sold their personal stuff. But, Kelly can pay an outside recrutier who in turn pays the athletes but that ok? If its not Ohio St then it is ok! You media people always want to bring down good coaches unless of course if it's coaches of a team you like or a conference you like. Speculation is not a part of Journalism, we don't care about your opinions if it's the law for Ohio st then its the law for everyone!


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